**sn0w** @sn0w · Apr 06, 2018, 23:03

**sn0w** @sn0w · Apr 06, 2018, 23:03

sn0w @sn0w

Excuse me pleroma developers, do you have a moment to talk about docker

**Miko ~ True Administrator** @thog · 2018-04-06T23:14:49Z

Miko ~ True Administrator @thog

@sn0w ask @kurisu

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**Steph** @kurisu@iscute.moe · Apr 06, 2018, 23:23

**Steph** @kurisu@iscute.moe · Apr 06, 2018, 23:23

@thog @sn0w Docker is an absolutely fucking genius solution to the problem of configuration management. I like to think of docker more of a configuration management system than a containerization system because it's just so fucking good at it. After years of ansible and chef being FUCKING SHIT someone thought... Oh why don't we just version control the ENTIRE FUCKING FILESYSTEM and then they made docker. Tue fact. Docker is the single most genius idea in sysadmin since linus laid down the holy gospel of git. The networking and isolation and other shit is cool but docker is fucking awesome at making me rant at FUCKING 1AMm i'm not CRAZY noU

**Sean R. Lynch ☑️** @seanl@literati.org · Apr 08, 2018, 16:32

**Sean R. Lynch ☑️** @seanl@literati.org · Apr 08, 2018, 16:32

@kurisu @thog @sn0w You're retconning how Docker came about though. It started as "let's sell smaller slices of computing than Amazon provides". Then (I assume) investors told them their valuation would be much higher if they were perceived as a software company, hence the rename from dotCloud to Docker.

**Sean R. Lynch ☑️** @seanl@literati.org · Apr 08, 2018, 16:34

**Sean R. Lynch ☑️** @seanl@literati.org · Apr 08, 2018, 16:34

@kurisu @thog @sn0w And you definitely don't want to be using Docker images as your primary version controlled artifact. You should have a build system and be version controlling the inputs to that.

**Sean R. Lynch ☑️** @seanl@literati.org · Apr 08, 2018, 16:36

**Sean R. Lynch ☑️** @seanl@literati.org · Apr 08, 2018, 16:36

@kurisu @thog @sn0w Packer even lets you use Chef to build your images, but the legitimate use cases for that are few IMO.

**Steph** @kurisu@iscute.moe · Apr 08, 2018, 16:52

**Steph** @kurisu@iscute.moe · Apr 08, 2018, 16:52

@seanl @sn0w @thog oh of course

**Steph** @kurisu@iscute.moe · Apr 08, 2018, 16:57

**Steph** @kurisu@iscute.moe · Apr 08, 2018, 16:57

@seanl @sn0w @thog but docker does version control the file system, if you need it. And its that version control that gives docker a lot of power.

**Steph** @kurisu@iscute.moe · Apr 08, 2018, 16:52

**Steph** @kurisu@iscute.moe · Apr 08, 2018, 16:52

@seanl @sn0w @thog I don't really care, I know for a fact that the original design wasn't that clear of an insight - its just my insight into what the design has become.

**🔌💘🐶** @USBloveDog@cybre.space · Apr 08, 2018, 17:03

**🔌💘🐶** @USBloveDog@cybre.space · Apr 08, 2018, 17:03

@kurisu @sn0w @thog Will #Docker mean I can run my instance without converting the #systemd scripts into rc.d scripts that #FreeBSD can understand?

**sn0w** @sn0w · Apr 08, 2018, 17:04

**sn0w** @sn0w · Apr 08, 2018, 17:04

@USBloveDog @thog @kurisu Yes because i will stab anyone who tries to squash an init system into a docker container 👀

**🔌💘🐶** @USBloveDog@cybre.space · Apr 08, 2018, 17:20

**🔌💘🐶** @USBloveDog@cybre.space · Apr 08, 2018, 17:20

@sn0w @kurisu @thog That’s the main thing stopping me from hosting an instance: I can’t use sudo service Pleroma start because the file isn’t compatible with rc.d

**Kristian / z428** @z428@social.tchncs.de · Apr 08, 2018, 17:12

**Kristian / z428** @z428@social.tchncs.de · Apr 08, 2018, 17:12

@kurisu @thog @sn0w Docker is very neat and very helpful but nevertheless one should be pretty careful: It's neither a trivial thing nor a silver bullet. ;)