@ichii@ichii.moe @pry @mlubert telegram: discord with phone numbers and some story about how it has good goals

in the bin, it's at the same level as discord because nothing can go lower than that thing

@lumi @mlubert @pry @ichii riot/matrix are a decent alternative to discord. Ive never used xmpp so I don't know how well it compares to that, but in my experience riot works fine, other than its e2e encryption being a buggy mess that isn't very user friendly. Or at least, that's how it was back when I still actively used it, around a year ago.
None of my friends use it anymore so I haven't used it for a while.

@astolfo @pry @mlubert @ichii@ichii.moe i had various small issues with matrix when i used it a couple months ago

i'm open to using it again if someone wants me to, tho i'm not going to use it without e2e encryption

i really hope that message retention extension gets passed for matrix because i want data hygiene, not storing stuff forever

all that being said, i much prefer xmpp

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