please let's put that cursed thing where it belongs
in the trash
@lumi meh all my friends are on discord, little chance i could convince them to switch off of it, so i'll keep using it for the time being
@pyromage i understand ♥
at least we're not arguing about where it belongs
@lumi cant til I find a reasonable alternative honestly
@pry for most of its functionality: look at xmpp
for the rest: soon™
@lumi I need the rest lmao
@pry tbh i think the biggest thing is where people are
discord would not be valuable without its users
it wouldnt have gotten so big without their pretty religious hype squad
their strength is being able to use your friends against you, and more than anything else, that's the reason i hate it so much
@lumi network effect is powerful
@pry and walled gardens are plain evil
@lumi the problem is we need some good, open source and decentralized alternative for it, cause these don't really exist
@selfisekai gotta work on it, then!
Whatever the pros and cons for relatively technical users, the discord audience don't care.
They want integrated voice, chat, and fun social spaces with minimal cost, financial and effort. IRC will never be that, and that's why discord has absolutely smashed IRC/Jabber and TeamSpeak/Vent/Mumble use in gaming.
@ocean @lumi by a good alternative I meant really good. look at the discord, with avatars, emojis (including custom guild-specific and even animated for paid users), playing statuses, images, videos, rich embeds, easy http/websockets api for bot developers, one account for everything, chat history, voice chats...
I could say many more advantages for user. Matrix is much better for it, but still lacks some more features, fully functional clients and servers.
I agree IRC is a very good thing, now we just need a Discord-like app that's as good but like GNU (using IRC or XMPP for text, and other stuff for voice and all)
Until then I'll keep using Discord
@lumi yeah lol i will do that when there will be a better alternative
@baschdel i couldn't possibly fit all of it so i settled on just discord
there are a couple huge privacy invaders missing there, like apple for example
@lumi Yeah, like what the heck was wrong with IRC? It's not good enough for yer vidja game xbox xtravaganzas?
I hate when Foss projects use tools like discord, slack, or jira.
@yisraeldov yeah that's literally the worst ugh
@lumi all my friends are on discord so i use it to communicate w them :0
@sadcatstarry a lot of mine are, too, but i choose not to use it because it's terrible and it scares me
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