PSA: Discord's new TOS basically screws over artists
@cdmnky holy shit lmao
@lynnesbian they aren't even hiding it, it's like "this is mine now"
@cdmnky That's a disgusting thing to even thing about adding to your platform. How on earth can they even think this is right in any way
and I thought facebook's license was bad...
the US, where consent is how easily you can con someone into thinking they haven't consented
@cdmnky doesn't "in connection with operating and providing the service" mean that it's literally just so you can't sue them for... hosting the content you send to your friends and displaying it within their app
this could possibly extend to advertising and data collection as a means of funding said service
@cdmnky wonder why discord never implemented end to end encryption 🤔🤔🤔
it doesn't make it right though
it's about time the government started thinking about internet companies
@cdmnky wow nice time to delete my art on my server
@firstname.lastname@example.org @cdmnky "in connection with operating an providing the service" probably couldn't justify marketing.
That was here in the old ToS i'm sick of people pointing this out
@cdmnky Discord's reply to concerns about the content clause: https://support.discordapp.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018659011-Your-Content-Clause-Explained
(also, it's not very different from every other sharing service and for the same reasons)
@cdmnky i hate that like every corporate site does this
@cdmnky hey what the fuck discord
@cdmnky this is misinformation and misinterpretation. this clause in the TOS simply allows them to host the stuff you upload at all.
u still own rights to the things you upload to discord.
@cdmnky um. don't they literally just need that license on Your Content to be allowed to, y'know, operate a messaging service that distributes Your Content
that should be YOUR license though, they shouldn't dictate themselves what they want to do with your works
@cdmnky so you'd have to provide a license alongside all content you post, in a machine-readable form, so that the service can know exactly what it's allowed to do?
certainly doable but extraordinarily complex for the average user i would think
@cdmnky me, has uploaded nearly all my art and writing and oc development on discord for the past two years:
@cdmnky well, discord is owned and managed by jason and zachary citron, who are both jewish...
@cdmnky Uhm, not really, and no shit. They HAVE TO be able to display your content to anyone who uses their service, otherwise people won't be able to see your messages.
perpetual: so they don't have to ask again
nonexclusive: so you can still do whatever you want with your shit
transferable: in case discord gets bought out
royalty-free: so they don't have to pay you to display this content
sublicensable: required because each server cluster is seperate according to law
host: store on their servers for display
reproduce: move from server to server as needed
modify, adapt: typically for resizing
publish: blog about, or use in a news article
create derivative works from: this one is maybe-shady
distribute: display to anyone who looks rather than one user
perform: *performs an art*
display: same as distribute in this
This appears to be a bog-standard license for software that allows you to communicate with a random set of other users on the internet.
Of course, get a lawyer to check out the meat of the text, but this is most likely more of the same stuff that's already on the books.
@cdmnky looks like the normal legal jargon for "we'll save multiple copies of and resize your uploads so our service can work". other sites have similar things, but I doubt Discord will make a shit move like dA has and yoink people's art
tl;dr bureaucracy forces everyone to use what seems like very alarming language. thank you for your concern tho!
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