Is there a free noob and phone-friendly way to get a persistent IRC client running? How can I possibly get my friends off of WhatsApp?

@hund What's the status of XMPP vs. Matrix nowadays?

I can't really recommend Matrix either, there's no good CLI client and Riot has usability issues. I'd expect XMPP to have a better CLI stories, but how are the phone apps?

@ayo XMPP is by far less bloated. And setting up a server is very easy. :)

Conversations for Android and.. ChatSecure and/or Monal for Ios? I don't use Ios myself, so I don't know how good they are.

@hund It's been ages since I last used XMPP. Guess I'm going to give that a try again. :)

@ayo androirc was simple and nice to use though maybe too simple compared to WhatsApp?

@cesese The biggest problem with plain IRC clients is the lack of persistence. You disconnect for a bit and you miss part of the chat. IRC isn't very mobile friendly when compared to almost everything else.

I mean, I'm happy with Weechat Android, but that's definitely not easy to setup.

@ayo oh that's what you meant by persistent :/ Yeah I don't know then, I don't see irc as a good thing for persistent. Things like Matrix or Delta Chat are better suited for this imo.

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