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No, Lennart, it's 'Linux', not 'GNOME/Linux'. The most important contributions that the freedesktop.org made to Linux were the creation of the GNOME and systemd. Those are fine and inspired products. systemd is a monumental achievement and has earned you, Lennart, and the Redhat countless kudos and much appreciation.

(An operating system) != (a desktop environment). Linux is an operating system. By my definition, an operating system is that software which provides and limits access to hardware resources on a computer. That definition applies whereever you see Linux in use. However, Linux is usually distributed with a desktop environment to make it easily usable as a desktop system, a server, a development box, or a graphics workstation, or whatever the user needs. In such a configuration, we have a Linux (based) distribution. Therein lies your strongest argument for the unwieldy title 'GNOME/Linux' (when said bundled software is largely from the Redhat). Go bug the distribution makers on that one. Linux alone is an operating system that can be used in various applications without GNOME whatsoever.

Next, even if we limit the GNOME/Linux title to the GNOME-based Linux distributions, we run into another obvious problem. GNU may well be more important to a particular Linux installation than the sum of all the GNOME contributions. More properly, shouldn't the distribution be called GNU/Linux? Or, at a minimum, GNOME/GNU/Linux? Of course, it would be rather arbitrary to draw the line there when many other fine contributions go unlisted. Yes, I know you've heard this one before. Get used to it. You'll keep hearing it until you can cleanly counter it.

You seem to like the lines-of-code metric. There are many lines of GNOME code in a typical Linux distribution. You seem to suggest that (more LOC) == (more important). However, I submit to you that raw LOC numbers do not directly correlate with importance. I would suggest that clock cycles spent on code is a better metric. For example, if my system spends 90% of its time executing GNU code, GNU is probably the single most important collection of code on my system. Even if I loaded ten times as many lines of useless bloatware on my system and I never excuted that bloatware, it certainly isn't more important code than GNU. Obviously, this metric isn't perfect either, but LOC really, really sucks. Please refrain from using it ever again in supporting any argument.

Last, I'd like to point out that we Linux and GNOME users shouldn't be fighting among ourselves over naming other people's software. But what the heck, I'm in a bad mood now. I think I'm feeling sufficiently obnoxious to make the point that systemd is so very famous and, yes, so very useful only because Linux was developed. In a show of proper respect and gratitude, shouldn't you and everyone refer to systemd as 'the Linux init system'? Or at least, 'Linux systemd'? Seriously, where would your masterpiece be without Linux?

Be grateful for your abilities and your incredible success and your considerable fame. Continue to use that success and fame for good, not evil. Also, be especially grateful for Linux' huge contribution to that success. You, Lennart, the freedesktop.org, and Redhat have reached their current high profiles largely on the back of Linux. You have changed the world. Now, go forth and don't be a nag.

Thanks for listening.
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I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNOME/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNOME plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning desktop system made useful by the GNOME corelibs, PulseAudio, and vital systemd components comprising a full OS as defined by freedesktop.org.

Many computer users run the GNOME/Linux systemd every day, thanks to bribing distro maintainers. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNOME/Linux which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically systemd, developed by the freedesktop.org project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the systemd they use.
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boss makes a dollar, i make a dime, we’re counterfeiting on company time

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Are you interested in how to bring secure, private, peer-to-peer distributable content to the fediverse that can survive nodes going down? I've finished writing the documentation for the #Spritely Golem demo which explains how to do just that: gitlab.com/spritely/golem/blob

It also includes a running, workable demo which you can try yourself. Please do and let me know your thoughts!

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И снова мессенджер. Что типа #DeltaChat, видимо

Dib2Qm - Dib2Qm (Messenger for secured chats and groups) - f-droid.org/app/net.sourceforg
@rf

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CHRIS: then the girl calls him onii-chan. that means he's her brother, right?

PAULIE: the girl's bangin her brother?
SILVIO: naww
TONY: who's bangin her brother
PAULIE: girl in chrissy's comic book
SILVIO: it's a manga, and he ain't her brother. it's a honorific

TONY: lemme look at that
SILVIO: wrong way, tone. ya read it back to front, right to left
TONY: right to left, up is down, this broad's bangin her brother *chuckles* the fuck is wrong with japan

PAULIE: *points with cig* whys the guy's nose bleedin
SILVIO: *shrugs* artistic shorthand. means he's pitchin a tent
ALL: OHHHHHH

TONY: you got more of these chrissy
CHRIS: i got one where a girl's head gets cut off. girl grows a new head, head grows a new girl
TONY: what the fuck
CHRIS: hand on the fuckin bible tone
PAULIE: ehhhh. that's unhealthy
SILVIO: it's tomie

FURIO: in italy we do not read these things

CARMELA: what is that
TONY: crazy comic book. from Japan
CARM: ugh. looks like the smut ya son watches on that laptop computer
TONY: ohh, he's MY son when he's watchin hentai?
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Haven't been here for a while, and now this introduction/sturtup dialogue showed up.

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I'd say I'm gonna chill out but it's already cold so instead I am going to, get this, warm up.

I'm a genius, right?

Satan is pleased: “Welcome to Hell, you’ve wasted your pitiful life”.

Me: “Yeah, well, at least I’m not an adult living in my Father's basement”.

Satan fighting back tears: “Fuck you, cunt”.

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Do cigarettes packs in you guys country also have extremely triggering imagery?

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would anyone be interested in a short video tutorial series about building video games with Scheme?

I'd like to start from scratch on an Ubuntu machine and walk the viewer through building a simple breakout clone. it will be limited to building the game, not distributing it.

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The only person y'all need to follow is God 🙏

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yeah i like CRYPTO:

Cryptographic ciphers
RSA block ciphers
Yubikey convenience
Public key cryptography
Time-based one-time passwords
OpenPGP
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A possible slogan for the OOP wars:

"Data reuse is more important than code reuse"

ie a big problem with OOP is that once data is packaged together with behaviour into a class, it's very hard to reuse that data in ways unexpected by the original class developer

worse, "not being able to get the actual data" (encapsulation) is a deliberate OOP design goal, so it is unlikely that you will be able to get your data out of an OOP system intact. Unless you store it in parallel in a non-OOP system.

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@freakazoid if you look at it the right way, dabbing is just a modified nazi salute
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