Stop hating on server software!

nginx is ESSENTIAL
apache is ENTERPRISE
postgres is RELIABLE
docker
ssh is SECURE

@Wolf480pl what projects are top right and bottom right logos from?

@sirmacik @Wolf480pl icinga and grafana (the picture is captioned so you can look at the description by hovering at it)

@Wolf480pl Postfix/Dovecot are lacking from this picture

@tdemin I have no experience with Dovecot, and my only experience with Postfix tells me it's an unmanagable mess. I was tempted to include OpenSMTPD instead, but I don't think it's popular enough.

@Tryphon
This is not the grid you're looking for.

If it was about alignment, OpenSSH would be lawful good and OpenVPN would be chaotic good :P
@alcinnz

@Wolf480pl
I never used docker But thougt about doing it.... But i read more often about all the hate... Why?

@fuyuhikodate
@fuyuhikodate
- overhyped
- often pushed for usecases where it's unnecessary, just because it's the trendy thing to do
- it's not a tool for solving problems, it's a tool for shoving problems under the rag
- encourages developers to be lazy
- encourages developers to make inscrutable blackboxes
- encourages admins to not try to understand the software they run

@fuyuhikodate and that's only on the design part. As for the implementation part...
- uses lots of disk space
- doesn't give a shit about security
- IIRC there were some other annoying things people complained about, but I forgot what they were

@Wolf480pl
Doesnt give a shit about security is for me the most important Argument.
But still, thanks a lot for the list. I think i will never try docker :)

@fuyuhikodate maybe I exaggerated a bit, what I meant is they explicitly say that Docker is not meant for sandboxing untrusted code, and sandbox escape bugs are expected.

Anyway, I think it wouldn't hurt to try it, to see what it does and how it feels. And who knows, maybe one day you will have a problem of having to run software that depends on obscure versions of obscure libraries from ubuntu 12.04 and you'll want to shove it under the carpet^W^W^W into a container instead of fixing it to work with latest libraries.

@Wolf480pl
Hahaha xD
Well you're not the only one who hate docker in that way and fixing an error under the carpet? No way. Either i find a Bugfix or another Tool which i can use before i say "Hey lets take this unstable fix... Its like trying to fix my life" ^^;

@fuyuhikodate well I don't use docker, I'm just saying that you shouldn't base your decision not to use it solely on what I told you.

@Wolf480pl
Yeah its more like a "you're the 5the Person who told me, dont use docker its insecure" so before i even thin about it to using it i should read a lot more about it ^^

@ivesen you can just hover over the picture to see the description

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