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Wolf480pl @Wolf480pl

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@kensanata
To sum up, I think that:
- People should make posts followers-only if they don't want comments from strangers, or don't want comments at all.
- There should be a way to mark post as "venting/no comments please" and this indication should be clearly visible to everyone responding.
- There should be a way to mute a conversation before it starts, i.e. have a toggle below the input box for "don't send me any notifications relating to the post I'm about to make"

@maloki Hm. An interesting convention. I fear that’s too subtle, though. Have you used it much? Or is it new? I hadn’t seen it before. And I only understood what it showed when I replied and saw the the text between the two colons. I’d also like client support, eventually.

@kensanata It's a custom emoji on this server.

And when I've used it it's mostly been good results from it. :)

@Wolf480pl @kensanata I'd recommend writing "venting" posts to a file and them using rm(1) on it

@saper
I'd rather suggest writing straight to /dev/null, and this idea has bounced a few times around the fediverse,
but @kensanata says wanting people to read your posts but not caring if they understand is a valid usecase.
IMO it's a bit of an exhibitionism, but I don't have any arguments why it wouldn't be a valid usecase, and adding the flags I suggested doesn't seem like much work (unless your code is a mess), so why not support that usecase too?

@Wolf480pl @kensanata I don't think it is a valid use case, sorry. This is a read/write platform.

On Telegram I joined once one a broadcast-only channel. I was so annoyed to find out that the "Reply" button is not there! The whole thing was next to useless.

Also on the protocol level nothing prevents anyone from sending a reply. That shouldn't become another laughable "anti harassment" feature that can be worked around trivially.

Reminds me of ideas like a "broadcast flag" a bit. They all fail.

@saper @kensanata
>Also on the protocol level nothing prevents anyone from sending a reply.

Yes. And I explicitely do not suggest making it possible to disable replies.
It should be possible to advise users that you do not want to be part of a discussion, so that they don't _accidentally_ annoy you because they thought you wanted a discussion.

@saper @kensanata
Also, on protocol (actually, server implementation) level, it is possible to mute notifications coming from a sub-thread, so it should be possible to mute notifications from all replies to your post (not just a subtree), before those replies happen.

@Wolf480pl @kensanata so... is this really a "mute all replies to this thread" option - which applies to the sender only?

@saper @kensanata
Right now if there's a reply to your post, you can click on the "..." in the anotifications command, and choose "mute conversations", which will mean that you, and only you, will stop getting notifications from that subthread from now on.
What I propose is allowing to use this feature on your top-level post, preferably at the exact moment of posting it.

@saper @kensanata
s/reply to your post/any post mentioning you/

@Wolf480pl @kensanata ok. this looks reasonable. I mean I still do not like it but it could work and it does not affect others - other may reply as they could before and even invite others :)

@Wolf480pl @kensanata why would you make a toot then?

Scream into a pilloe instead or something

@saxnot I have no idea. But apparently some people prefer screaming on socnets rather than screaming to /dev/null.
Ask @kensanata

@saxnot @Wolf480pl Why not? I see people having this urge and it doesn’t hurt me to have them do it as nobody is forcing me to follow. What about all the people that write blog posts without comments? All the Google+ posts with comments disabled? I don’t like it and unfollow anybody who does it, but what I surely won’t do is butt into conversations (or monologues) where I am not wanted.